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NOTES FROM THE OUTERNET PHOTO: White Night – Paris

January 2nd, 2012 · 299 Comments · Uncategorized

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  • toocreepy

    I dont like Paris anymore. I hope I never be there.

  • koryn5

    in front of a rallying sign.
    What’s happened to the scenery?

  • http://twitter.com/OAmanis Amanis Olmos O Redil

    Paris is even more beautiful you. i love you. I do not care what you think of the fucking universe *_*/

  • http://twitter.com/SisterMars_Tina Miss Tina

    i loved that show!!! How i miss it

  • agnieszka

    There’s been a lot of new albums out lately, looks like the bands didn’t have time/ideas for videos so they just put together some concert footage. And behind the scene footage. In slomo. So lame. I mean – there is more in this one photo then in those “videos”. How you’re going to chose from so much great stuff and decide what goes into the tour movie I dont know. All I know is I really want to see it.

  • Megan♥₪ØΙΙΙ•O.

    Glad to see you survived J. I see a bird shadow attacking you!

  • yanna.s

    hello crazy bandy:)I wish you all from the Band and the Crew spontaneous,crazy,sweet,intelligent,creative,rich and happy New Year:)

  • Ihatethisworld

    you say die bitch but she even dont listen to your music.
    hallo crazy parasites.

  • http://twitter.com/MarsJesacah ☦₪ J E S S I C ⨺ ₪☦

    Love theme nights. My fav is blood ball

  • http://twitter.com/ksenya_n Kseniya

    Can’t wait to see in 2013

  • Kathleen Wegener

    aaaaaaaaah, you’re back :)

  • Nieda_mars

    I WAS THERE!!!! FROM GERMANY!! LET’S DO THIS AGAIN IN 2013!!! XO

  • http://twitter.com/WeirdFan block :(

    Please come to Brazil. We need you!

  • http://twitter.com/WeirdFan block :(

    Brazilina’s Echelon needs you!

  • Be my Guest

    Jared I love you and miss you, I hope you’re doing fine.

  • jolievie

    Mars is coming :) ,you guys must be so excited,new album,new tour you must be flat out,how close is the new album?,I swear that announcement is going to break twitter,all the snippits and lil lyric leeks you have been doing have everybody all revved up and excited ,cannot wait to hear the new songs,the feedback on what people have heard so far on vyrt is amazing,it’s gonna be a great one.Theme nights are such a great thing,the ultimate audience participation,making it fun for everyone,dissolving the barrier between the artists and the audience and creating an experience and a sense of community which is what you guys are all about,you are doing amazing ground breaking things and no doubt will continue to do so,hope this is your best year ever,well until the next and the next….. etc etc ——> infinity
    Ps White night,love it white is your color looks good on you ;) .

  • NiargoMARS

    This little light of ours, we’re going to let it shine – PROVEHITO IN ALTUM love & light from Down Under .. MarsMmmwah

  • Breezy

    time really flies…..

  • Coreena

    :) aww your ready for the new adventures. It’s wonderful to reflect,gives us the times too think of all the magical things shared. By the way thankful the fiscal cliff was averted. It made me nervous always hoping for those who need assistance get the outcome they need. It’s not fair on ppl. But the right outcome came too pass. Altho the problem with this generation is that they don’t realise how much politics is in all they do. It’s in the schools in the music they listen too in advertisement it’s not limited too presidents and politicians, governors alone. It is highly a miss informed bunch of souls. Whom need re educating that politics is what allows them too continually have freedom in the things they do. Dreams cannot prevail if politics ie someone who faught their ass off for us too be free too have the opportunites and be able too do what we do daily. I’m thankful and beyond greatful too those who have. How’s u btw,no not how’s the projects those a important but You as a person :) hope ur good. Working your ass off bless u. Ps in future those who want MERCH for free or cheaper give them that version of it. And those who want quality as they have common sense too know that quality has too be paid for give that. Honestly ppl expect u too be a show pony and just give give without making a living for yourself. They can F off and we pray for them also :) no need too be hostile completely be polite in the mix too. Give them books tied and unbound with string haaaa they asked for it.

  • http://twitter.com/Saruchy7 ❤♡Sarah.L♡❤

    Hello Jared!!!
    Happy New Year :)

  • http://twitter.com/mariepritcahrd marie pritchard

    Morning :) … whenever i see / read White Night ( no matter the spelling) i always think of Hero’s …. ( Poss because i’ve read my fair share of Fantasy novels )

    This pic is awesome ..what an effect :)

    Have a great day/night until the next time, Love from me xXx

  • Hbraica

    Although I was not on the photos and videos, was an unforgettable night

  • Buffy Belot

    i hope to see you guy’s this new year in new tour !!!!

  • jomars

    =)

  • http://twitter.com/BarbieTsoli BARBARA TSOLI

    <3 I MISS YOU !! :(

  • Amanis OLmos

    Paris City of love, inviting to the delight of the furtive kisses, your on it doing even more they cause you its Mystic charm. I love you

  • http://twitter.com/OAmanis Amanis Olmos O Redil

    Paris City of love, inviting to the delight of the furtive kisses, your on it doing even more they cause you its Mystic charm. I love you

  • Annie

    Im an Echelon myself, I asked about the triad many times before, and nobody is answering, how could I possibly know what it means when nobodys telling, Ive been a fan for years!! but I still don’t know what the f.. triad is!!!!! IM AN ECHELON!!!!

  • martina

    I’ll try to answer about the triad in italian because i don’t speak english very well …il triad e’ il simbolo di uno dei 4 elementi dell’alchimia

  • name

    I wonder how can u asking so much and no one explain to you like normal human . I like you Annie .

  • TJ

    Ciao, Annie. Scusi perche non parlo italiano molto benne… Non sonno siccura che sia lo stesso simbolo dell’alchimia, la TRIAD… 30STM non hanno parlato abertamente di cosa significa per lei. Penso che sarebbe una suggestione vedere il vídeo This Is War. Per me la simbologia e che sonno il tre uomini della banda, di Dio y sortuto un simbolo di pace abbastanza nella bataglia della vitta comme nel mondo. Pero questae la mia interpretazione. Domanda a Jared, doppo dimmi qualcosa! Siamo ECHELON. Non facciamo contenda. Siamo ECHELON insieme.

  • ???

    You don't know what dreams you have?

  • Wide Awake

    I agree, we all have desires and hopes, but sometimes it is hard to actually define what Dreams are, or which ones to follow

  • abstract living

    I can sympathize with @give it back. sometimes it is just like this… :)

  • abstract living

    you finished what I was to tired to write down.
    can you define DREAM in a way we could all understand each other? ;)

  • Wide Awake

    Sometimes it can be difficult to separate a desire or want to a Dream, to me a desire is something more short term and more easily obtainable, my definition of a dream is more long term, on a much more grander scale, maybe dreams differ to each person.

  • !!!

    I prefer not to have dreams but goals. Don't like the word "dream". It's more like a fantasy term. I've got life not a fiction.

  • abstract living

    Hal Urban coined nice line in his book, which is also chapter title, stating "Goals are dreams with deadlines"

    to me there are 4 types of dreams:
    1.those we dream at night and are workings of our subconscious mind. in my case some are so gorgeous I don't want to wake up at all, but continue on dreaming :) ;
    2. the day-dreaming dreams which are pure fantasizing type and are the controlled experimentation with situations we wish or might face in life;
    3. the attainable dreams, something we can achieve because their fulfillment depends on our actions; these could easily become goals, as for example, you dream of living or traveling somewhere, then you can set the time when you wish to fulfill that dream and work on it;
    4. the dreams which are up to chance. we wish to achieve them but are left up to circumstances and actions of others (or stars!)

    now whoever disliked my previous comment is a cold-hearted creature :/

  • Way

    Beginnig a dream…them when it is near,become goal . Follow the fantasy only for make it reality ! My goal is…. :)

  • Wide Awake

    I think I can also relate more to the word goal than dream, somehow it does seem more realistic to have Goals than Dreams.
    However I don't believe that people with dreams don't live in the real world, I believe that they are the ones that make the world real in the first place.

  • abstract living

    ok I decided to give you one example of fantasy mixed with strong desire and dream at the same time. especially when it comes to music the theme is quite well pronounced and to me ever present.

    my young friend is a Green Day fan. she had this wonderful dream of playing on stage with Green Day some day. I loved it, but thought it was very far fetched. then during last GD tour, she traveled to another country, since they didn't play in hers, to see them live.she got to the front of the stage equipped only with A4 chewed-up piece of paper saying" Let me play your guitar". She was picked from the crowd by Billie Joe, handed his guitar and played one of the oldest known songs, only die-hard fans know. After that she was given his guitar as a gift. The chance of her fulfilling the dream she cherished for over 5 years was almost null, but she did it! and how? by doing everything she could. she not only knew VERY WELL how to play guitar, but also traveled to be at the right place and at the right time. Now she knows everything is possible if you work at it.

    now my own kid loves 30STM (his top band) and already at age of 13 dreams of playing on stage with them some day, maybe even one of his songs! He is in a band already, plays both acoustic and electric guitars, writes his own songs, and I know if 30STM invite anyone ever to play on stage with them, his dream might have a chance of coming true :)

    dreaming is all hard work and the rest, that little 1%, is in reality up to heavens :)

  • Way

    I agree!! Last point is the end of my comment,where I say "only…" but thinking…it is a log speech. :)
    Someone not anderstand, who don't know…I make so !

  • Wide Awake

    "Goals are dreams with deadlines"

    Deadlines can be very beneficial, otherwise dreams may just stay dreams rather than becoming reality.
    Thank you for your definition, all of which I would agree with,(except #2 as I am not much of a daydreamer) although when I said I didn't know how to define dreams I meant my own personal ones.

    What you said about your friend playing on stage, To me this is what a true dream would be, something so unusual and obscure that most people spend their lives chasing the dream rather than living it.

    She was one of the lucky ones, In this instance I would say it was the other way round, she put in the work to be in the right place at the right time, but then again so were all the other people who where there also, It was the 'Heavens' that sealed the deal.

    However I do believe 100% that anything is possible if you work at it enough

  • Wide Awake

    Btw the person who disliked you comment was not me, I intensely dislike the whole thumbs up/down, It is often misused, If someone agrees or disagrees then reply to that comment and put your opinion across, how can anyone change an opinion if it is not argued or reasoned ?!

  • Way

    I think…fallowing the dreams the oportunities come and…the eyes are well open to see them!!! Wait with patience :)

  • For me the word "dream" describes smth serious and the worth to achieve. I mean it has be an aim of life. Something that doesn't change despite different circumstances. For me this term shouldn't be used as a definition of the fullfilment of dream's stage.

  • Wide Awake

    Dreams Goals Desires I suppose it doesn't really matter what they are called , in the end they are just aspirations of all sizes

  • linark

    no doubt about that (or this, i don't know…)!!

  • M. Thought

    Yes I think that if there aren't dreams there aren't goals, if there aren't goals you don't go anywhere!

  • abstract living

    "I intensely dislike the whole thumbs up/down," yep, agree it robs the comments of real discussion :)

    "except #2 as I am not much of a daydreamer"gosh, I'm the opposite. I rehearse everything in my mind, be it simple trip, presentation or even the juicy stuff :)

    I guess those dreams which come true or even surpass our dreams (as in case of my friend she got more than expected) are actually the combination of all types.

    I only wish my dreams dreamed up in my sleep came true. They can be so good and are so repetitive in its theme at times I lose the grip which one is reality as if I had two lives: one astral and the other bound to earth.

    If you stay realistic or have a moment of dawning pessimism many dreams seem out of place or hard to define. I often suffer from too many while being aware my life is too short to fulfill them all :/

  • abstract living

    "I didn't know how to define dreams I meant my own personal ones."

    You know, I was just thinking. Sometimes I’m not sure if having preset dreams or goals is so beneficial. Sure they give us direction but they can also be limiting to try out other opportunities. It happened to me already 3 times in my life. I achieved the moment of fulfilling my dream and then all of a sudden something unforeseen and not dependent on me happened to prevent its fulfillment at the very last stage. The first time was the unexpected loss of funding, the second my own severe illness, the last one the war which happened in a country I moved into. I could have no control, so had to redefine myself and what I wanted to do in life. Choose another path and find a new dream.

    As long as you stay active, flexible and open the dreams, no matter what size, may have no end and spring up when you expect them least, even if the initial feeling is that of emptiness or loss. Looking back I think all those terrifying and sometimes downright upsetting moments when universe conspired against me, took me to better places and perhaps more fulfilling experiences in life.

    And I reckon simple dreams are much easier to shake out of our sleeves. Once your life is complicated enough dreaming stops being a "solution" to defining the meaning of our existence.

  • !!!

    To vote for a comment is to show an attitude and not to change opponent's opinion on a subject.

  • xappy!!!

    Venere, happy new year xx+hugsssssssssss

  • !!!

    Our subconsciousness knows our real dream and prevent us from realising false one by different obstacles.

  • Wide Awake

    Looking back at your definition of Dreams I think you actually have hit the nail on the head, you definitely need all four to make goals and/or dreams a success, and yes ok I concur about the juicy bits :)

    You most have some pretty amazing dreams to have that effect on you, either that or your subconscious knows how to live a better life than you :)

    Usually if your actual dreams are repetitive, it is your inner voice telling you to do something. Whether you choose to act on it or keep it as a dream is what makes the difference.

    " I rehearse everything in my mind, be it simple trip, presentation or even the juicy stuff :) "

    Does the 'fantasy' live up to the 'reality' ? Do you not find that the imagination can be so powerful and creative that if you daydream about certain situations, then the experience cannot possibly live up to expectation ?!

  • Wide Awake

    Don't get me wrong, I 'Dream' just like the rest of us, and I have been fortunate enough to see those dreams become reality throughout my life. However as you get older your dreams change and reality sets in and once your dreams are realised, you either continue that dream or find a new one.

    Maybe I just don't have this so called epic, mind blowing, life changing dream anymore. I don't want to be famous, win the lottery, hurl myself out of an aeroplane, climb a mountain, bungee jump into the open jaws of an alligator, pack up and live an isolated life in the depth of nowhere ( although that might be good for a short time)
    I don't want to backpack through the amazon, find spiritual enlightenment in an Ashram, discover the meaning of life, or go to the moon. ( Sometimes it is easier to define what you do not want than want you do )

    Goals on the other hand are easy to define, to which I have many, I guess the difference is GOALS enhance your life, DREAMS change it.

  • Wide Awake

    " universe conspired against me, took me to better places and perhaps more fulfilling experiences in life. "

    I would agree that the universe does have a timely habit of intervening or interfering depending on how you want to view it !
    Generally things DO happen for a reason, even if we don't know

  • guest

    she looks like sick :D

  • !!!

    I knew it!

  • xappy!!!

    As contagion of sickness makes sickness, contagion of trust can make trust.
    Marianne Moore

    Venere is the best woman and mother on this forum!!!!!!

    I love her!!!!!!

  • guest

    yeahhhh but she looks like sick mother too :D

  • guest

    even I think her husband dont want to sleep with her :D ahhahahaha

  • -V-

    THX *kisses & hugs back* :)

    I can't hide, can I? :)

  • Way

    Your friend is the proof that dreams can become reality. I've put a part my real life, for a dream and maybe it's worse because I don't see a end. Also I rehearse many things in my mind and maybe few thing in practice,but I don't know…! when I'm next to it,it goes away from me.
    :As if I had two lives: it happened me too,and sometimes I went in confusion.I don't understand what is right way,even if I know it from the bottom of my heart !
    I think that the solutions come,at the right moment when we are really decided. We must make a choise.
    Sorry for my English!!! :)

  • !!!

    I try not to dream about the scenario of realising my dream. I had this habbit many years ago and it didn't bring me anything good. I try to listen to my intuition voice. Sometimes forcing your dream realisation can lead you to the wrong path.

  • guest

    kidding kidding :D

  • (((

    I think that @guest is female cos such sort of comments is only forgivable for a woman!

  • 30_STM_J&S&T

    that's what i call a proud frenchman….

  • abstract living

    my god, haven't laughed this hard since… 3 am last night? :D

  • abstract living

    … or disappointment. things don't always happen the way we want it to. you can do everything and then ta-da one day everything bursts cos something happens differently. but that's why dreams are different from plans. dreams have the tendency of coming back and knocking on your door not to be ever forgotten or taken over by another big time dream.

  • Wide Awake

    Agree that either dreams or goals are an essential part of living a thriving existence

  • abstract living

    @Wide Awake

    "Usually if your actual dreams are repetitive, it is your inner voice telling you to do something. "
    Nothing can be done. They are just like some glimpse into parallel universe where my life is different, with different people around me and while I'm still being essentially me. It will never be here no matter what I would change right here, right now. My dreams are almost eerie. :)

    oh no, I'm not talking about big fantasies when I mean day-dreaming. so there is no living up to expectations. it's just my mind scrolling thru what might be. I think I outgrew fantasy world as something far fetched. I brought fantasy down to earth, through what I know might actually happen. Perhaps that's the reason my subconscious makes up for it when I sleep although I admit nothing there is overly creative either.

    I believe though in imagination as the source where creative ideas stem from. I use it to visualize stuff, before I create anything, even if it's a collection of experiences and images I tend to let go and let my mind do the traveling to see something new. I spend a lot of time in there :)

  • Wide Awake

    That may be the case to you, but it is misused often with malice ignorance, or preconceived prejudice. That is not an attitude that would interest me.

  • Wide Awake

    Therefore Daydreams or Imagination is just another way of conceptual actualization of a creative process, a way to think and develop ideas, rather than an Escape.

  • abstract living

    mamma mia, we are back to square one. :)

    I often say if you already live your dream then all the rest is just fun stuff to do. Then you can define what you don't dream about.

    Dreaming is symptomatic to the youth who have the whole life ahead of them, experiments to conduct above all on themselves, find their own truths, places to go, paths to choose etc. They still haven't reached the point of self-actualization where everything falls into place and as I like to quote Salvador Dali, can "die from overdose of satisfaction". The whole point of growing up is that you know it takes steps to get wherever you want. So your dreams take on a different nature, and, depending on you as a person, can manifest in many ways.

    The things you list can be dreams to some, especially to those who have it hard to get anything in life. My dreams are of completely different category, so I cannot relate to your idea of dreams in examples. To me they are ideas for spending the time or seeking new experiences. My greatest dreams will stay secret till I get there, but they always involve filling the holes I see in the world around me, and are not self-centered.

    Maybe I'm not satisfied enough as a person still and continue on having dreams. I have one eternal problem I'm not settled in one place I could call my own. I'm so tossed in this world, the older I get the more I dream of having this peace in life others call total boredom. It will probably never be. Whatever I plan always includes few countries, cultures, languages, even religions. My dreams are so simple right now I don't know if they would classify as dreams at all, as they are as far from mind blowing as they can be.

    Perhaps you reached similar stage when you can define the goals in your life as the dreams had already changed it.

  • abstract living

    Wars happen for a reason? only human stupidity I suppose.

    If I'm part of the universe's bigger scheme then I admit I need to equally thank and curse it :)

  • I do it for myself as a self-expression.

  • linark

    j'aime surtout faire rager les gens !!!

  • Wide Awake

    mamma mia, we are back to square one. :)

    lol ! let me simplify it for you:
    I DREAM, I SAW , I CONQUERED

    Seriously though, I'm not sure if I am confusing you or you are confusing me, but either way we seem to be running around in circles and ending up on the same page, saying the same thing just using different words.

    'My dreams are of completely different category, so I cannot relate to your idea of dreams in examples.'

    I agree, my 'dreams' differ greatly too, much more on a simplistic scale which is why I had questioned if they could indeed be called Dreams in the first place.
    That list is a a representation of what Dreams seem to be to some people (after career and life choices)
    There is nothing wrong with these types of
    Dreams, each to their own, but they are just not for me, not at the moment anyway.

  • Wide Awakee

    I have to admit that my dreams and goals usually are completely self centered, they are a way for me to do something just for myself, which is often the opposite to daily life. I have the utmost admiration for people like yourself who try to make a difference in this world, or fill the holes as you said. I wish you all the very best with that.

    ' the older I get the more I dream of having this peace in life others call total boredom'

    How to compliment and insult so many people in one statement :)
    Being settled, is not necessarily about a physical presence somewhere but more of a state of mind !

  • Wide Awake

    I think everybody does it for different reasons

  • Wide Awake

    Yes, Wars happen for a reason too, maybe not a very good or just reason, but they still happen. Sometimes the only comfort from all the horrendous atrocities in this world is to believe that something good, no matter how minute has been born from it.

  • abstract living

    "How to compliment and insult so many people in one statement :) "

    I cannot agree I'm insulting anyone with my statement. :) I'm sorry if you see it so. I didn't intend to do it at all. It's more of a "grass is always greener on the other side" statement. We usually crave what we don't have and think others have it simply easier or better. In my case "easier". Full stop.

    Being settled is at least to me the lack of necessity to be a nomad for the rest of my life, of changing work environment, neighbors, friends I socialize with, knowing it will be over sooner or later, even if I have my own solid pack right now. Do you know how many of my dreams cannot be fulfilled because of my life style? To name one biggest dream in my life of owning my own horse and buy one for my daughter. The possibility of political unrest in the region where I live and perspective of moving at the unknown future moment, I cannot do it or rather risk it. Animal is a living and breathing thing, not piece of furniture you can leave behind. I'd rather get attached to stable horses. I already missed two good buys because of that. There are always pros and cons to every type of lifestyle I guess, so let's not focus on negative ones. :)

    Another thing. Once kids fly out of the nest, and in my case it'll be pretty soon, you are technically left on your own. This moment your life in not dictated by others' needs you have to consider, and that's where my dreams stem from. My kids are not EVERYTHING to me even if they are VERY important. I've done my part of supporting everyone's dreams. Now it's simply my turn :) And I can't wait, believe me.

  • abstract living

    "is to believe that something good, no matter how minute has been born from it. "

    do you know actually how many times this has happened to me? you must have had similar experiences to reach this conclusion.

    you know, I hate to blame universe for wars. it's just way too cute even with its immense forces at play :)

  • Gaius Iulius Caesar

    I see you also have this mania

  • Ekaterina Kourinova

    My dream is to overcome the speed of light. I mean to be alive at the moment when humanity will reach this point. But looking at the world news I see that this humanity is not very far from our ancestors. That explains why aliens don't want to contuct with us. Maybe the world will be a better place if our dreams would be less egoistic and more about good life for everyone. My NY's wish was that kind.

  • Noman

    Bitch!

  • guest

    egghead :D

  • Wide Awake

    Don't worry I didn't really think you were insulting anymore, hence smiley face, just the words Total Boredom conjure up negative connotations, even if that was not portrayed that way. I knew what you meant, it just made me laugh. Grass is always greener !! ha, either learn to look after your grass better or move to the city !! : ) kidding of course, seriously I get it, but sometimes it is more important to appreciate what you do have than dwell on what you don't.

    Anyway thanks for the chat and good luck with getting your horses and with the rest of your dreams .

    " Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not, remember that what you now have, was once among the things you only hoped for "

    Epicurus

  • Humans are the only ones to blame.

  • guest

    :D op someone is maaaad

  • Wide Awake

    lol ! yes it's a tragedy

  • Wide Awake

    I so want to reply to that, but I have no words ! other than a dichotomy of dreams !!

  • Ekaterina

    I don't know the meaning of this word(i'll check it) but I can feel an assault

  • Ekaterina

    I've got personal dreams as a living thing and dreams as a social human. My aim is not to fly away from this planet but to explore our motherland Universe and maybe to find new friends for humanity. That's why I need fast speed so I won't be absent for a long time from Earth.

  • Noman

    It's you – you don't know your name.

  • Wide Awake

    lol ! No, no assault or insult intended, I just love your comment, It is so out there and yet so down to earth at the same time, Good luck with your intergalactic travels : )

  • Ekaterina

    Hopefully I'll travel with my body not only by soul. Thanks.

  • abstract living

    LOL love your final quote! Live it by day and true, my dreams not only became fulfilled but also grew bigger than me! 6 years ago I was already fine, but universe demanded more of me, and now I'm stretched max :) At times living your dream is not what it seems.

    But I see the future above all. If you wish to achieve your next set of dreams they won't just materialize out of doing nothing. That's why sober assessment of situation you're in is essential to defining where you wish to see yourself in next few years if not a decade, and what steps will take you there. If I leave it up to chance and only dreaming per se than it's pure fantasizing. And it's just not me. The life would lose its appeal.

    Good luck to you with defining your dreams and goals for whatever time span you wish.

    It was nice talking to you too :)

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